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edited October 2015 in Public Discussions
Ciao a tutti , oggi io vi scrivo in italiano , poi mike farà un ottima traduzione .
Ecco la mia domanda :
Secondo voi la foto che mi allego esiste questa Avantime preserie ?


  • This is a Avantime prototique?
  • edited October 2015
    Does anyone know if the prototype Avantime in the attached picture actually exists?
    (Qualcuno sa se il prototipo Avantime nella foto allegata esiste davvero?)
  • I've only ever seen evidence of the red one
    (Ho sempre e solo visto la prova di quello rosso)
  • edited October 2015
    The only part of the quartet of pictures my relatively untrained eye would say is definitely of a proto is the one of the wheel. The headlight doesn't look like the show car type. The other two could easily be of a production car.

    Edit: Actually, the tail light looks a bit strange....

    When were the pictures published?
  • edited October 2015
    It seems this photo is a photocopy of similar booklet that has the production model on it. To me all photos (except the front grille) are "new" as we know that Matra prototype was in red colour...
  • I'm pretty sure these are photos of the red concept shown at Geneva which have had the 'hue' changed (it's very easy to do, I did it to see what a half ep2 interior would look like). If you look at the first 3 photos they all have identical lighting to this press pic of the red car http://www.favcars.com/wallpapers-renault-Avantime-concept-1999-87625.htm however it does look like they have changed the light unit, the left side looks like a lens from a production car and the right side you can see the bar bit which sits in the middle of the concept version.
    The image is the front of a 'preview' brochure from October 99, there one for sale here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181382824164 in the ads pics it shows an inside page that shows the production Avantime from above. I suspect the person putting the brochure together did not have access to an actual car so decided to use the existing photos and change them so it was a colour they wanted (and I think blue was more a colour Renault used in publicity at the time)
  • Io appena posso vi girerò un'altra foto strana di un altra Avantime colore Iliade presentata ad un salone come anteprima nel 2000/2001,
    Auto preproduzione con degli accorgimenti non eliminati in sede di produzione definitiva,
    Io continuo ad avere un dubbio,secondo me c'è stato un secondo modello no prototipo ok ma preproduzione assemblato con molta fretta e da presentare nei saloni
  • Two bad quality ,,,, uffff
  • This CAR are no original final Avantime ,,,,, i think ,,,
  • That is the first 'production' Avantime shown to the public at the 99 frankfurt motor show (September) just 7 months after the concept/show car was shown at Geneva (February) here is a video of Richard hammond standing infront of it
    I did look for pictures but they all seem to be of the front, the only obvious difference from the final car is the completely red lights (which i had never noticed before), it also doesn't have parking sensors.
    I'm not sure where those photos were taken, at frankfurt there was a board behind it saying 'renault Avantime weltpremiere', but it looks as though it is in the middle of the hall, a blue 'production' Avantime was displayed at Geneva 2000 with the red concept, I have seen pictures from other shows too, one had the clear lights but I'm not sure which show that was, and I can't see the lights in the others.
  • anyone fancy a coffee with cream...and added leds ? ?

    (For those who havent already seen every Avantime on u-tube..)

    like ? dislike ? discuss.
  • I saw it in the flesh at the international meeting in Amsterdam last year, absolutely stunning interior.
  • Can we have a "like" button please!.
  • I dont like it, I love it. Truly superb.
  • edited November 2015
    Spudit,questa immagine riguarda a una preproduzione finale,anche io non so dove è stata scattata la foto ma sicuro i fari posteriori erano tutti rossi come il prototipo Z66 e altri piccoli particolari non erano ancora stati ottimizzati per la produzione .

    @spudit2003 , this relates to a final pre-production, I also do not know where you took the photo but sure the rear lights were all red as the prototype Z66 and other small details had not yet been optimized for production.
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